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[Kalajel]

So, checking some of the French translated stuff, I notices that with the current rules, few people get to make the build they want with their characters. Now, there is a French translation play aid which helps with this problem (but I'm not too impressed with it).

So I thought of maybe lowering the level at which a Hero Class could be selected.

At first, I aimed for 6th level, as a throwback to the old D&D 3.X prestige classes which could be taken around 4th to 8th level depending on prerequisite and build. But then I realized that the first 4 or 5 levels in are earned rather quickly, so I changed my aim for level 8 instead. I also assumed that having some talents become available 2 levels earlier rather than 4 levels earlier is probably less unbalanced...

So, without further ado, here are the rules.

Level     Hero Class
8             —
9            4000
10          5300
11          6700
12          8200
13          9800
14          11500
15          13300
16          15200
17          17200
18          19600
19          22200
20          25000


Fighter Hero Classes

Berserker
Battle Cry 8 (III)
Brutal Blow 8 (V)
Close Combat 8 (V)
Endurance 8 (X)
Fury 8 (V)
Lightning Reflexes 10 (V)
Smash Armor 10 (V)
Injure 14 (V)
Sweeping Blow 14 (III)

Weapon Master
Close Combat 8 (V)
Lightning Reflexes 8 (V)
Parry 8 (V)
Perfection 8 (V)
Weapon Expert 8 (V)
Marksman 10 (V)
Sharpshooter 12 (V)
Injure 14 (V)
Lacerate Tendons 14 (III)
Salvo 16 (III)

Paladin
Armored Mage 10 (III)
Blocker 8 (V)
Caregiver 8 (III)
Familiar 8 (I)
Reassess Magic 10 (V)
Riding 8 (V)
Servant of Light 8 (V)
Spellchanger 10 (V)
Battle Cry 10 (III)
Close Combat 10 (V)
Link Familiar 10 (V)
Mindful Magic 12 (III)
Smash Demons 12 (III)
Smash Undead 12 (III)
Devastation 14 (III)
Escape Death 14 (III)
Inspired Retribution 14 (III)

Scout Hero Classes

Assassin
Acrobat 8 (V)
Alertness 8 (X)
Backstab 8 (III)
Defensive Stance 10 (V)
Dodge 8 (V)
Lightning Reflexes 8 (V)
Marksman 8 (V)
Perfection 10 (III)
Sharpshooter 8 (V)
Stealth 8 (V)
Close Combat 10 (V)
Injure 12 (V)
Lacerate Tendons 10 (III)
Master Climber 10 (III)
Nasty Shot 10 (V)
Assassinate 12 (III)
Directed Poisonning 12 (III)
Lockpicking 12 (III)
Mounted Archer 12 (III)
Salvo 14 (III)
Slip Away 12 (III)

Ranger
Alertness 8 (X)
Familiar 10 (V)
Hunter 8 (V)
Marksman 8 (V)
Mounted Archer 8 (III)
Nasty Shot 8 (V)
Riding 8 (V)
Sharpshooter 8 (V)
Beast Master 10 (III)
Link Familiar 10 (V)
Salvo 12 (V)
Master Climber 12 (III)

Rogue
Acrobat 8 (V)
Alertness 8 (X)
Appraise 8 (V)
Defensive Stance 10 (V)
Disengage 10 (III)
Diversion 8 (III)
Dodge 8 (V)
Lightning Reflexes 8 (V)
Lockpicking 8 (V)
Pickpocket 8 (III)
Rascal 8 (V)
Slip Away 8 (III)
Stealth 8 (V)
Thievery 8 (V)
Master Climber 10 (III)
Release Spell 12 (III)
Marksman 12 (V)
Lucky Devil 14 (V)

Healer Hero Classes

Cleric
Armor Proficiency 8 (V)
Armorclad 8 (II)
Armored Mage 8 (III)
Blocker 10 (V)
Smash Undead 10 (III)
Close Combat 10 (V)
Smash Demons 12 (III)
Brutal Blow 14 (III)
Devastation 16 (V)
Inspired Retribution 14 (III)

Druid
Animal Form 8 (V)
Beast’s Strength 8 (V)
Beast Master 8 (III)
Familiar 8 (X)
Hunter 10 (V)
Link Familiar 8 (X)
Riding 8 (V)
Elemental Protection 10 (V)
Bear Form 12 (V)
Eagle Form 14 (V)

Monk
Acrobat 8 (V)
Defensive Stance 10 (V)
Dodge 8 (V)
Lightning Reflexes 8 (V)
Stealth 8 (V)
Unarmed Master 8 (V)
Disengage 12 (III)
Elemental Protection 10 (III)
Slip Away 10 (III)
Beast Master 12 (III)
Brutal Blow 14 (III)
Manipulator 12 (V)
Smash Demons 14 (III)
Smash Undead 14 (III)
Stunning Blow 14 (III)
Sweeping Blow 16 (III)

Wizard Hero Classes

Archmage
Alchemy 8 (X)
Embed Magics 10 (X)
Enhanced Cooldown 8 (X)
Mindful Magic 8 (V)
Reassess Magic 8 (X)
Resist Magic 8 (V)
Rune Lore 8 (X)
Servant of Darkness 8 (V)
Servant of Light 8 (V)
Spellchanger 8 (X)
Arcane Explosion 10 (V)
Imp 10 (III)
Manipulator 10 (V)
Staff Binding 12 (V)
Homunculus 12 (III)
Link Familiar 12 (III)
Conjurer 14 (III)
Control Explosion 16 (V)
Defy Elements 16 (V)
Spell Routine 16 (III)
Subdue Summoned 16 (III)
Undead Hordes 16 (V)

Elementalist
Combine Elementals 10 (X)
Control Explosion 10 (V)
Defy Elements 10 (X))
Elemental Protection 8 (V)
Fire Magic 8 (V)
Lightning Thrower 8 (V)
Master of the Elements 8 (V)
Mindful Magic 8 (V)
Subdued Summoned 10 (III)
Devastation 10 (V)
Elemental Acolyte 14 (III)
Marksman 14 (V)
Servitude 16 (V)
Versatile Summons 14 (III)

Battle Mage
Armor Proficiency 8 (V)
Armorclad 8 (III)
Armored Mage 8 (III)
Blocker 8 (V)
Control Explosion 10 (V)
Devastation 8 (V)
Lightning Reflexes 8 (V)
Marksman 8 (V)
Mindful Magic 8 (V)
Parry 10 (V)
Servant of Darkness 8 (V)
Servant of Light 8 (V)
Sharpshooter 10 (V)
Weapon Expert 8 (III)
Close Combat10 (V)
Enchanted Weapon 12 (III)
Fire Magic 10 (V)
Lightning Thrower 10 (V)
Defy Elements (14 (V)
Elemental Protection 12 (V)
Master of the Elements 12 (V)
Brutal Blow 16 (III)
Injure 16 (V)

Sorcerer Hero Classes

Blood Mage
Blood Shield 8 (V)
Consuming Sprint 8 (III)
Endurance 8 (V)
Painful Gain 8 (III)
Ritual of Scars 8 (III)
Bloody Healing 10 (III)
Cooldown Sacrifice 10 (V)
Painful Change 12 (III)
Blood’s Might 12 (III)

Demonologist
Circle Master 10 (III)
Conjurer 10 (V)
Demon Spawn 16 (III)
Demon Spell 16 (III)
Imp 8 (III)
Ritual of Scars 10 (III)
Servitude 16 (V)
Subdued Summoned 10 (III)
Versatile Conjuration 14 (III)
Voracious Conjurer 14 (III)

Necromancer
Absorb Life 8 (V)
Necromancy 8 (V)
Undead Hordes 10 (X)
Caller of the Dead 12 (V)
Ritual of Scars 12 (III)
Delay Death 14 (III)
Versatile Raising 14 (III)

[vikleroy]

I like this idea, better than having a talent for using a hero talent.
Perhaps you should submit it in the german forum.

[Kalajel]

My german is pretty much inexistent, and I don't really want to offend them with an half-assed translation using google translate...

[vikleroy]

You can write in english, that's what I do. Most of them understand it.

[vikleroy]

I add that Dex has already done some stuff in english for germans.

[Kalajel]

Okay, I guess I can give it a try. Now if I could figure how to register on the english forums...

[Kalajel]

 I recently revised the progression. I'm not sure which is more balanced, so feel free to use whichever you want and experiment to see what works best. Personally, in my game I use this one here.

Level     Hero Class
8             —
9            3700
10          4900
11          6200
12          7800
13          9500
14          11300
15          13200
16          15200
17          17200
18          19600
19          22200
20          25000