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[Greifenklaue]

What do you mean by "eisenhaller Streithammer "

A weapon-condition from the Caera-Box.

Costs ae doubled, Initative-Malus is 2 lower.

(If the weapon has normally -3 initative, the initative of the same weapon forged with steel from Eisenhall now has -1 initative)

[vikleroy]

OK, and for the equipement of the Paladin and weapon master? Same?

And "eisenhaller" can be considered like mithril or adamantium?

And the eisenhaller kettenpanzer doesnt give you +2 Ini for the cleric?

[Greifenklaue]

And "eisenhaller" can be considered like mithril or adamantium?

Yes, but a little difference: Eisenhaller steel is made in the town Eisenhalle.

But for campaigns which not play in Caera you can say this is like Adamtium, Mithril ore something.

[Grollgar]

also für meine Spielergemeinde wäre das mal eine ideale Erweiterung. Wo finde ich die Erweiterung bzw. woher kann man die sich besorgen?

[Blakharaz]

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[Grollgar]

Vielen Dank, so will er genutzt werden

[vikleroy]

OK, and for the equipement of the Paladin and weapon master? Same?

And the eisenhaller kettenpanzer doesnt give you +2 Ini for the cleric?

And for my other questions?

[avakar]

OK, and for the equipement of the Paladin and weapon master? Same?

The equipment seems to be the default equipment for characters with culture "Vandria".

And the eisenhaller kettenpanzer doesnt give you +2 Ini for the cleric?

Eisenhaller steal reduces malus until 0 but does not give you a bonus. This applies on INI-value for weapons or Laufen-Value on armor.

[Backalive]

Die Regelung für die Heldenklassen kommt meinem Spielgeschmack sehr entgegen. Denn warum soll ein Paladin nicht schon als Jungheld auf die Welt losgelassen sein?
Für mein Verständis hat der seine Ausbildung im Tempel genossen, bevor er auf die Welt losgelassen wird.

[vikleroy]

Hi all

I was thinking recently about the fanwerk for "heldenadepten"

The fact is, that if you want to build a Paladin for example, you must take the new talent  "Heldenadept", and your progression is lower than other players, because you must take every 2 levels for example a new rank on heldenadept if you want to progress in the paladin's talents.

Dungeonslayers    is built like that, you have to wait the 10th level to reach a new class, instead of basic warrior, archer and mage.
So if you want to play a paladin, you have to wait the 10th level. I'm not sure it's very good for players who like diversification.

You can't play a bard for example (you must take the heldenadepten I for Bard, that you can access to a talent specific for a bard in a fanwerk)

I don't know, if I don't take the "heldenadept" talent, if the game will be unbalanced or not.

If the paladin is just a warrior with the cure spell, it isn't so strong (more if there is no healer in the group).

I take another exemple: I want to play a cleric. Why not just limit for example talents you can gain at level 12 (Dämonen zerschmettern for example) , gain acces at level 2, but only on 1 rank? You can take other ranks after the level 12.

There are so many possibilities to build your character, that I can think, there are many ways to have a strong guy (warrior with Verletzen, with an axe, and waffenkenner at level 8) so you don't have to fear heldenklassen at low level.

Do you know if there exists another house rules about that?

What do you think about this reflexion. I don't know much about high level characters, perhaps I don't see something important.